Johnny Carson
“When I mentioned that I thought most people were
not apathetic, I think they're confused, basically,
because you hear intelligent people from both
political parties or in the middle, conservatives
and liberals, and they all seem to have different
answers as to what is going wrong in the country.
Some people say, ‘Well, let's let the government
spend billions of dollars,’ and then other people
say, ‘No, no more federal spending. Let's give the
tax rebates.’ Then the other intelligent people
say, ‘No tax rebates; we've got to do this and do
that.’
So everybody is confused. How do you see the
thing? How are we going to get out of this?”
Ronald Reagan
“Well, Johnny, I think one of the things is that
people keep looking to government for the answer,
and government's the problem.
A moment ago you asked, you know, about people
feeling not only confused but low and down in
America. First of all, the American people, if
they would just take a little inventory and look
around, you triple our troubles, and we're better
off than any other people on earth.
And we've asked so much of government, and we've
gotten in the habit over the last 40 years of
thinking that government has the answers.
There's very little that government can do as
efficiently and as economically as the people can
do themselves. And if government would shut the
doors and sneak away for about three weeks, we'd
never miss them.
Our biggest problem is that we have built a
permanent structure of government—federal, state,
and local—the permanent employees, and they've
come to the place that they actually determine
policy in this country more than does the Congress
of the United States.
There are 14 and a half million public employees
in the United States. That's quite a voting bloc.
And the bureaus and agencies—not in Washington—I
heard you talking earlier about some of the
research programs.
Well, there was a senator the other day, and he
took up some pages of the Congressional Record.
He was doing the same thing you were, listing all
these crazy research programs and how much they
were costing, and wound up his speech by
introducing his own. He wants a study and a
research of Transcendental Meditation.
So, you know, there's a state senator in Michigan,
and he just found out the other day they got a
$93,000 study on whether chipmunks are bad for
you. And he said that as a fourth-generation
chipmunk eater, he figured that he could tell you
how for 93 cents you would find the answer to
that.
What would you say if I told you about one study
in which this was called the demography of
happiness? And in this study, the government
found out that young people are happier than old
people. And they found out that people that earn
more are happier than people that earn less. And
they found out that well people are happier than
sick people.
This was $249,000 to find out it's better to be
rich, young, and healthy than old, poor, and
sick.”